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Cardinal O'Malley challenges Trump's immigration stance 2-3-17

Feb 3, 2017|

Cardinal O'Malley challenges Trump's immigration stance 2-3-17

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You're fighting for him. And keep fighting for those illegal immigrants who have gone through every law every challenge every hurdle we have put more than me. How many times very difficult politically correct circumstances as well. That's a protestor. Who says that's what's gonna happen here in the state of Massachusetts associated with the travel to and I took like this morning court's gonna convened here in Boston hearing on the president's travel ban. VD this is it with the backdrop of last night's state political leaders meeting at the cathedral of the holy cross connect with cardinal O'Malley yesterday. Defending Muslims. Got in law of this. I'd you know my feeling on all of this I've been here before we did this with the ball when he wanted to taking these Central American refugee crises in the Democrats is and nobody wanted to hear it sorted you do we gathered all these religious leaders and he played that card. They did it last night and I I found it equally is there a rages. Luckily elect. Cardinal O'Malley years you know my views on catholicism we need not get there I was raised Catholic I was an altar boy item. What I now would caller recovering Catholic I don't wanna get personal on this. But. He's got the op Ed in the globe today. New times teaches about new duties while my argument is figured there's nothing new about your approach. That's the same old approach that's been going on for thousands of years. I would also argue would most of these religious leaders and cardinal O'Malley in particular. But you're institution itself has rules. For example in my supposed to take the sacrament if I haven't been confirmed or baptized. So. You have rules and you don't allow people to not do things when they don't follow the rules. And yet you're telling us to embrace these people that haven't followed the rules and to basically just let everybody and I I I couldn't disagree more. Well. All of this is it the backdrop of all of this is this court hearing that's occurring two day. And in this court hearing. This the travel ban. Will be debated there has been a stay on the travel ban but the government is not argued today that the travel ban. It really there's no need first day and there's no need for this discussion because the issue was related to those who hold a green card. Those two are legal immigrants in this country. And that they are already being allowed here and and and really you know that's where I come into this whole thing. I actually think to travel ban has for all intents and purposes gone away because they said you can. Can come into this country if you are coming in legally. Regardless of whether your citizen or not now cool argue. With the idea. That if you're coming to this country illegally. From one of those countries that is questionable. You shouldn't come until we figure out how to work this out I don't I'm actually not understanding now how anybody can argue this weather is O'Malley. Or its walls you are Walsh are anybody at what are you arguing now. What do you I want to know why anyone thinks it would be okay me. For someone to just come into this country who would not becoming your legal. Agreed in its the same disk. Act we have Blake soaps over example O'Malley rights should reader in my O'Malley voice I used to do British. Amateurs cannot be disrespectful so maybe you should ask is just to leading you're always on July 3 line migration today is a reality of being citizens in an injured dependent globalized world. Well first of all you've stated something as fact that is in fact we don't. We don't have to be in in many cases aren't interdependent globalized world some of us. Voted for the president that is now an office because we don't want to be that corrects it while it was particularly a signal that we're not going to continue to be the interdependent globalized world that you talk about it's a fait accompli and police say migration. These are refugees'. First of all that haven't been vetted in Australia for example it brings that went into the mix. This isn't migration where it's like oh it's sort of a fluid have been flow this is. All blow. All in the all now. Consequences be damned in for some of us know. We're not doing that. Did when he uses the term my. Christian he didn't specifically. Means the refugees eyed just thinking means people coming to this country in general. I just think he means the migration of individuals. To the west to the United States of America. And while I can't. Again I think they'd. You know immigration in this country is one thing illegal immigration is another I just have a hard time understanding. And I wish that these leaders would make clear. What it is that they mean and why would they differ from what the administration is trying to do here. Why do they want I want to ask Marty Walsh. Marty Walsh why do you want to allow people to come here illegally. Why. Tell me why you wanna do that. I don't think the president trump has said at any point that he wants to keep people who come here legally out of this country and in fact. Has backed away from what he said last Friday. To make sure that people understand bets that is not his stance. So I again I just I criticize these leaders. Because I don't understand where they're coming from. Wanna say directly to anyone feels threatened today while on mobile USA in Boston. We will do everything lawful in our power to protect you. That's what's up to 666868. X 86 cities attacks line. OK so they met yesterday here in Boston. All of this on the backdrop of the fact that we're going back to court this morning. 978 video were covered tablet like yourself and I'll listen to cardinal O'Malley. Or the Pope or anybody on this when they extradite Bernard Law back to Boston to stand trial. That's also an oval and I'm certainly a they taught about the poll the poll look at O'Malley and it gives him more I mean now and ultimately a cardinal cardinal did him itemize or view. I've always. I've always given the Pope at bats as a result of that actions. Six I'm 726668668680. Is attacked finally met yesterday and a I wanna see you know if you're treating this interpretation as to what India is that the difference between how they feel. And does it mean anything to you that all these religious leaders baker and walls were up on the stage and all these religious league leaders for the does as they kept using the word compassion do you feel like your compassion Dave does wall is convinced they did yesterday days for. Put up at City Hall let's keep armies like these all in on walls all of the sudden. That is I don't changes that that is not the case I just that it wasn't the drag out fight that I was expecting yesterday that's I think he convinced. And let me go to geno in Boston hey Jeanne good morning you're on WRKO. Q are you there. Are a storage you know again here in just seconds Susan is in Chelsea good morning Susan. Yes good morning quick a quick comment every Google Catholic Church. And money from the federal government last year at Catholic Church expected. 79 million dollars from the Obama administration. Could bring in refugees that act. Google. We'll have a lot of my god turned his into a bash Catholic hour Lawrence it's near you they were wasn't just Catholics there I mean O'Malley has the thing in the cold but fine but. This is all religious leaders that are words that are doing this and that are better pushing his fourth all under the guise of compassion and families and all you know the usual rhetoric. My question to these religious leaders. Is what about the idea of vetting and making sure that those two home to this country. Are worthy of our compassion what all that is such a problem that's that's wanna know. As compassionate as anybody I really am. It's the same conversation I've had whether it's O'Malley Walsh anybody witches. This is the great end of America as we know what in this is what him it wasn't what America was founded on sonar unit I say to you but we're allowing in one point two million a year. What is the number that you think we should allow in if you give me a number. Woman clearly at least you acknowledged there's a limit because what about that first person that's on the other side of the fence of the number that you put up. I guess you're not compassionate to like UK. You're reaffirmed crazy if you're on the O'Malley side if you read his op Ed I don't know how you could be for anything other than just. Full ought to open borders just letting anybody got it right it's great I mean he says you know we need. Perry comprehensive policy did you of these issues but everything that reads up to that is. Compassion in complex of respect for families the welfare of children. Libel block. That's true of whether it's the one point two million in one. The ten point two million an won the third I ordered him whatever that number cut off is the you would have to have to have a society. Some people are gonna give up on him. 61726668668680. Is the tax line. And we wanna hear from you what did you think about all of these religious leaders getting together and essentially saying that if we put a stay on this wild he. While we figure out the vetting system. That we're not compassionate I mean I honestly I I think that's. I think that's ludicrous and again I just would like to post but. Why what makes you think they're just making sure that the United States and its citizens are safe as we bring these folks and what about that is not compassionate. 6172666868. 686 in his attacks I have. It's really up on judge court. Mean a hard though if your hard as you can call Lamar is a live video this morning Argo. Here's Florida on amenities you ask Robert George you know that a former defense attorneys right. That sentence budget and you must log Gordon Dave because he is basically the United Center over your good ago taxis for dinner and he's he's the one that told bounce them off the guy talk he's he's he's. A tough guy in the state if his demeanor on the bench is very. Pargo hit you're gonna have trumps thing heard by a Massachusetts judge and you like trump and you liked his idea than you would want it to be Gordon praise of bush appointee. B has been tough on certain things and see he's of the gorton's fisherman them which I didn't think I didn't know until recently and that that always gets a tip of that and yeah it's unconventional little yellow outfit DS. Fish sticks for everybody on the government I'd love divisional. First. 670. 666868. X 8680 is attacks like yesterday. There was a gathering of political leaders as well as religious leaders at the cathedral of the holy cross and cardinal O'Malley. Overseeing this this gathering to discuss. Support for immigrants'. My question and Beebe where babies question was you know how did you feel about seeing them sitting there altogether in this might question is that. You know Ole what is not compassionate. About what's being done by the trump administration. I would if we stayed where we were BD a week ago. I would if I had problems with his band because I would say listen if you're hold on a green card if you're somebody who has already gone through the process. And you're in this country. And we've already said that you could be in this country. I had a problem with that I eat enough about has gone away. And this is a temporary stay to try to figure out how to make this better I cannot see what's not compassionate about this. So I'm asking listeners what what is it. 672666868. Malls and rain this morning good article. You know all worked up PP what all the early leaders. There was a variety of religious leaders so let's not or eight all of the religious leaders would sustain. I'll get for her breast that cardinal Alley. Yet. But. You know. I think it was just onto wanted to point about the task that this began. Has gone shall. To meet you weaker. Particularly in the media we expect. Our government to gang at a built it to be perfect no. Know anything ever. And then they never change even when we find out it's that ought to let Britain that are. This executive order. Went out and it epic you know what the wording it looks like he's already pitted green cart guys to come back and well what are by that except for the already dealt with no. Yes it was a couple hours of inconvenience those people but if you're out its kind in your life. Just go your regular day you regular week you have to deal a couple of hours of inconvenience. I mean. You'd be in court suing every other month. However. You know at a bunch of smoke on I pray that we get. Reasonable justices hearing these. Challenges because. I'm very confident about that Paul yeah I'm very confident again I had to revisit court over the last couple days in the warm looking at the moon much like the Super Bowl but the Mormeck and a more confident that the from the I want. He's going to be yet if jury view over the cab over decision alone. The way he writes that you have failed to show me the aggression here. I feel like he's going to apply that logic in this in this cases while. So I forget to get on Arizona was shut down because. States couldn't operate without broader brush it would have to be a federal law places federal aren't so it it would be. I can assure you that if somehow they strike is down that's going to be you know also states can't do it in our heads can do and I guess nobody can do it. I'm I'm feeling confident about judge court here. You know elsewhere around the country you know get a New York judge who knows you know case by case of these people I'm. It just is just see how this has argued in court today how the ACLU's argued this because. The original bay there the original stage was four green card. And visa carrying individuals. That has now the government is already said okay we're gonna concede that. So what exactly will be the argument today will the argument be to lift it completely. Because I hope this judge and I think he will will say no. Now we're not only to completely because it is temporary situation that can be revisited in ninety days 120 days alone and so forth. You know this is a national security issue. And limited that's I I don't know what exactly the ACLU's going to argue I think what they originally. Went to court to do has already been done by the government Jimmy is in Dorchester good morning Jimmy. Warning to him. They need and PD. I wish it was dead but holy cross could be as he's the yeah stupid can people high school right I wish it wasn't here because. Well remember a couple of months ago when French. Immigrants. You know they show and did facial compassion when need be headed that reach into church. Right. Now they did not. Now. So that's that's not mentioned in the normality phenomenon it is enough of that which is again which is. One of the things that I find disingenuous about this conversation you heard it on the on how we show last night would Walsh were you when you try to bring up. You do wonders it's the it's in Australia folk always trump you're trying to send us the next Boston bombers from percent of never got all worked up about tepid. That he's part of this right this easy and Willy Nilly. We just indiscriminately pick these countries. Picked this group that you're not common because we can't know the British so I have a problem. Our citizens are being maimed our citizens are being injured in our citizens are being killed. Bite people that we haven't been able to stop from getting here. And other places around the globe but so one step we think we can take to better pass protect our citizens is. We need to get our vetting situation under control until it is Don let's put a hold on these specific regions where. There are very few things were Democrats and Republicans agree. But they're really rigid price as the president. Previous to this once these are dangerous regions and nobody raised any golf awful about it at that. Hide their eggs to be honest. Nothing. Has actually if you strip this down and again I know in the beginning but like you throughout the entire week and I think a lot of our listeners a lot of people. We have looked at this more closely. To be honest there's really nothing different in this executive order then why. Obama did. Back in 2015. What Obama did was strip heat ball. From being able to comment to this country. Without of these. If they were gonna be here for ninety days there are countries you can come into this country you for ninety days if you're here less than ninety days without a visa. He said these countries are too dangerous. You have to have a visa if you travel from these countries to come to this country during I don't care you're here for two days. And we will approve or not approve that visa that gave us the opportunity to say. No you're not coming. Now what is any different from. That being what is happening right now what we've said is. If you have not been a prefer visa prior if you are not someone who's already been for no you're not coming. The only difference is that the president's executive order is for a short term. Vs what what President Obama done which was it definitely was a law. Got a question is important for example rules in favor trump today and immediately extend this and and how long and they extended and how old what are the limits that you push this through. Before Gordon Wednesday blocked I approved it but I'm not a proven fact. We'll do that won't get Betsy. Actually did that go back to court and then they're gonna keep people like to meet and a lot of other people organs in a minute. Let's do this the right way is what you hold us you were doing. 672666868. X 8680 is attacks on. Though to take don't take an oath of office to. Original caught constitution into meets following the law exactly and and what what the executive Autoliv was unconstitutional. How do you figure that because the president under the orders has no rights to all of our money on immigration issues to two cities around America. It's right there in written in black and white and that's why you know the answer to order my regularly he had to say do you think he has a right to do list. But needed to do what to do what he's doing the the you know stopping the immigration in the month of of course he has he has a month agreeing with his right foot his right to executive order to do it. There's no there's no. Part of the constitution. That has the race. Two hours and our I. And you're not a legal scholar Marty as we well know through your multiples. Attempts to stop the casino from going to Everett which you lost over and over again. You're not exactly and like the patriots consumer boy you're not exactly undefeated when it comes to lawsuits Marty. Well let's go. You know. He can tell you that an act like you you know that's everybody knows that but that's. Will will let somebody with a little more legal Roberts Austin you or me or how he or anybody decide that and we'll see how this plays out. We had a and immigration. Attorney on Monday. And you were you were way that day and you know she said. Where this all gets very murky is when you get to the shores of the United States of America and you. Are either or green cargo hold are you have been giving in you have big given the go ahead to be here. That's where it gets murky that was her art that's it David my right isn't that exactly what she set. So when you're still being in. Iran. And you wanna come to this country. And you have not been vetted and you just think that you are in handled those rights there is nothing our constitution that says. That you are covered and that we have to let you wouldn't. And that wasn't immigration attorney who is actually fighting at that point for these green card holders. To be able to get back into the country but she was very clear about how the constitution covers this and how would doesn't so for those sort misguided in the idea. That every one. On this planet is covered by the constitution of the United States you are misguided that is incorrect. 6172666868. X 8680. Is it tax line last night there was a big meeting at the cathedral of the holy cross cardinal O'Malley a number of other. Religious leaders as well as political leaders they're all thinking up four Muslims saying bid to compassion is what we should all half. And they're never mentioning anything about. How about. How about compassion for those who live in this country. And wanna be safe. How much the loss on a rule long before we'll use the term compassion. And it it what where I am. I'll tell you now or use the term effect because offended but what bothers me. Compassionate person had. So I don't what people trying to say. It because I want my family and I want you guys and I want the people who are listening and I want the people out there Dicey driving on the pike. I want all of them to be safe that I can. Ocean. Data I have for me I'm trying to rein myself in talking about O'Malley too much is I don't exactly I don't wanna make the little practicing Catholic thing because he's just so just happens to be our religious leader in the community government either tossed they would Walsh and Walsh was always our last night bottler several peoples of EB. Don't compare walls to the patriots that's disgusting DB how dare you bizarre text line. 772 Marty Walsh is more like the Cleveland Browns. If seven and one VB Walsh is like the thought last year while that hurts why it. A a and by. Any of this I I don't. Some techsters think that how we was really soft on wall slides and I thought the conversation was good I thought it was fine. You always want like how you stand on top of the building old and hands and I got a much. You're you're you have these guests on and you wanna by the way. Stan Rosenberg Bob DiLeo for example did you hear Walsh arm and how we last night he held his own just fine don't be so afraid fellas if you're so convinced that you have positions on like on this pay raise for example come on in the water's fine. Your big boy you can take it. I thought Osgood did good conversation Walsh convinces me in no way shape or form I don't believe a man any way shape or form. The line I would always is it detects is always wanna see this is purely about votes and don't tell me otherwise. They will never tell you that and they will always so we always have a disconnect. It is in Boston this morning good morning Andy. I guess polio super thanks. Great I wondered sic right. I'll vote cardinal O'Malley and the Catholic Church roads we the people and people that's all we represent christianity. In our community are where the people in the last forty years we've seen. Across Syria across the effort brought the of Christians being persecuted quite radical islamists in the middle leaks no one word from these people we will see where these people. When Obama administration. Took him. Many many more. Water to and and purposely left the print and not a politically sort of went. Mean it. We don't want typical for the Christian though Libby as you'd come here in the problems. Our problem while on the you know water welcome them no problem without sex art like look at these people well. Know what the government how Apollo. So to control comes in doesn't the Arizona case like was mentioned earlier that you know we saw the total opposite argument. Arizona was being unconstitutional. And you know according to the constitution autos and how that they're there comes order unconstitutional. So which one is also right. Right. Writes excellent 72666868. X 86 days attacks like Mike's in Dorchester good morning Mike. They could mortar iris and I consider myself a conservative Democrat which billable Republican right now Helen who. There are set last night that make you vomit in my mouth when he could even. Even like. Get in his head illegal aliens cost money. And that there is a burden to society. You know I'll never. Marks alone and I you know that you know the conservative Democrat. I had a hard time I'm like listen I understand reality you know you'd. Joel put so many businesses out of business and then eventually there's no job and it just as well. But I gotta say why or how our show I gotta say it sucks and Capote to go to your feet which you get. And take any companies like he was forced when when he did that stupid Rick rolling thing he was forced to go on how we card because he met. Because this staffer made a fool themselves that it. If he was forced to do that he wants and he was absolutely forced he's been on or before he wasn't for he went on there were during the point 14 situation I was there when it happened like. Marty's a big boys and Marty would Marty's a squeeze of union guy he's not afraid of this moment. What the impetus for this particular visit was the Rick roll thing when forced to meet their visa just ignore the little things that won me I don't care what's his knickers and about our new business. He's a lucky. C'mon no problem how you wanted to Mets are we told you last and I want a Jew last Thursday right last week. But this was the night we could get it and we could agree through so it wasn't. Marty just power down now it's there whatever you want is what you're dead they they they work them out. Funny guy like trump says his dialogue negotiation back and forth and they may have happened last night. Well I think he I think that while they disagree. You know they're both adults and they acted like adults I felt like and Dai hung like the Rick roll situation which was not adult like. But. You know in the N presents both sides so lets people here who were with both sides have to thank my Tim Wakefield good morning. My they're good morning. Yeah I'm here. Yeah. From a technical perspective. It was like somebody was sabotaging. Harley's show last night there were too many pauses. Earned. And the message really wasn't communicated. It the only message I got was how I diametrically. Opposed to. The two parties. Look regarding this issue and number two. I want should go back to the Boston Baughman. And that I hate to use this terminology put the body's warning from coal to end the cardinal. Was on TV. Saying. Paraphrasing he said hey let's not jump to any conclusions. Now about who may have done this. And I distinctly remember this it was a good donuts fell out of my mouth when I heard him say that. Lark and of course. Mike and reality cardinals Johnny one note on this stuff and for me. Compassion in. Caring love peace and let's all get along rhetoric only gets and so far we know where that gets you because we've been living that for the last ten years. That's why we have the president we have now because enough of this is said. We're tired of that we're tired of San Bernardino where is tired of Orlando we've got to try a different way. Compassion. Peace love. It they worked him. So we were compassionate to those earned I have Brothers and look what we got. It won a lack of understanding is the oval famously said there's this letter reads it's the same old same old crap. This letter this thing that O'Malley has in the globe today. Couldn't bend from that day it could've been from after 9/11 it could have been for many of that because it's the same stuff we hear every time but we're tired of that. Let me go to our Richard hooks and good morning rich. Good morning till I I just wanted to change the subject a little bit this morning because the subject of its currency in the last night. Most fortunate Don lemon show and they had Robert Reich from Berkeley talking about what happened the night before. Yeah I guess evidently he's. A professor there he was part of the Clinton cabinet job and he was accusing Milo. Of hiring all those people. To go in riots to make it looks sensational. So. He was given an opportunity to speak there was no push back from anybody in the cabinet. And it was a blatant errors or what proof do you have that that happened right former labor secretary and it's. That's a claim that can mean I mean others have made that claim that it was his time volatile secretly doing their. Unless you have some sort of evidence of that you just throw out some sort of score was appointment that's. There's no conversation. You just brought out something crazy would no basis in fact whatsoever. Again that's fake news in it we don't know I mean listen it's it's not that. Certainly people have not hired people to go in and to protest. What they're saying in what they're doing or in favor of what they're saying you're doing but. You know how we ever gonna know that wasn't somebody did somebody actually reveals that meant an even question that Ronnie is in Medford this morning good morning Ronnie. Good morning I have done. The I I'm. I have a feeling sometimes that we I'd just doomed as as spicy society in the end the use of words and meanings of words being changed by people. To do something that they're completely not. I recently had a discussion with a very rich and very Smart attorney. And China can keep trying to ask him what is he doing he he's a compassionate person. Well what is he doing with his six room house in Winchester that he and his wife. Happening. Why doesn't he have a number of families that are immigrant families who need places to live who need jobs who need some support. Why is he living why can't be living in his house and why is he driving her Mercedes when it Toyota would judge do well he could use that money for other things in his answer was. Well I'm I'm entitled to do something I work very hard. And indeed speak these people that separate from the rest of us say they are not affected by so many of the things that affect us and yet they don't step up. And do what they assessed bows to do and they want us to do it the the average person here. They want them to take your money and they want to spend your money and yet they want the shape it is. I I just don't know how to even affected. A change with these people. Television argument for the Pope. The Pope said just what you said about the church are about the Pope mobile for exam I don't need your database things PC he has lived that life and does feel like they're even within his own institution they've gotten a little bit away from what it is that they're supposed to. So in the in his particular case I will give him credit for that he has lived way but but in general especially when you talk politicians. Here Dardenne. Six or 72666868. X 86 Arabia's attacks line it.