Dec 21, 2016|
Casey Sherman and Dave Wedge discuss 'Boston Strong' and Patriots Day 12-21-16
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Not soon enough the message of love. And and hope and unity needs to be out there needs to be seen and heard by everybody I was committed to getting it right making everybody proud. The patriots day which is really making its debut here in the Boston area later today please. The our our our two deaths of both that they were Boston's strong. You know these guys Casey Sherman. And Dave wedge old friends of ours I know you guys from different lie it's very you know it's amazing how are. We have this past but. This is a terrific. The book was fantastic I read the book. I have not seen the movie I cannot tell life isn't just hasn't been the opportunity hasn't existed for everybody yet but I've that this has been uninteresting a couple of yours for you guys an interesting week for sure. Sure and I you know where you don't worry we attended the world premiere last week were so grateful that they actually did it in Boston. And you know Mark Wahlberg was there Peter Berg was there David Ortiz but the real heroes of that night. With a survivor's that it literally walked into that theater or real into that theater alive. Given what they went through in 2013. You know that was the most emotional. Part of that night firm for me anyway. You guys know a lot of the survivors you profiled and spent a lot of time of them real remember the famous boat trip you've got a tyrant. Ever once is is it too soon is it to Zune is a two's and. Yet again I mean I'm sure the summit mean you know I know a few that didn't go to the premiere that were invited but. Mom certainly the folks we worked without my book we went to the premiere win them. Because they they wanted to go with us we wanted to you know it's that support there and and now we want it we were glad to. To go come and see their reaction NC LE Felton. All the ones we went with had a very positive reaction Nate they weren't do you feel like the one who's expletive if they didn't feel like. You know there was moments that they really like it was difficult moments obviously watching the bombing being re created was it was difficult for a lot of them went. There were overall sense was that the war is well dominate they were OK with. What is your overall since guys he sought what do you think I think what Dave just said I think the movie movies well Don you know the filmmakers can only paint on a narrow canvas of a focus on the law enforcement aspect. To the entire episode you know David island wrote Boston's strong. We're able to focus on not only law enforcement but the firefighters the MPs are actually saving lives on boy Austin street dad dale obviously the survivors that. We've spent so much time with so we understand there's a big difference between film. In a book but we feel like at least they got the law enforcement response. To the to the attacks pretty well documented there it. And I think I think the more is done for the right reasons it was done. With a lot of passion. Pete berg tackles a lot of these realized dramas and he doesn't take him lightly he he worked incredibly hard to get the story right and you know the realities here moss to woo wee tear everything down and and people gonna have their criticism but. I think I'm a few approachable who has an open mind. I think you'll come away with a good experience because it tells the story really well. So what I'm fascinated with reduced movie I haven't seen yet myself but. Remember the town orange. Law of militarily disclosure I guess there is the second best movie ever mirror mirror on the town right class so. There's that famous scene where he goes over the bridge day they make it they think and then they stop because the cops in right there and they look at him. And they is that long Hellman and in the top finally just looks away and they drive away so. I remember talking about half like about this name dropped him and he said they almost they tried the studio wanted him to cut that scene. Because in every other city didn't Boston people were laughing at that because that would never happen yes and Affleck had to beg them. This did happen in Boston in this war to happen in Boston this is how we it was. He had to actually tell him about Whitey Bulger in that the whole thing right. Long room set up to my question which is. I'm very agency would someone in Phoenix thinks about this movie person would somebody of Boston things about because there are things here that you guys know Boston. The people aren't going to get aren't going to understand I would guess in lecture from here and know the fabric of this. Yeah and I'm angry and I think they you know Pete berg had to keep that in mind because he was making a movie not just from Boston but for than the country in the world. And I think now that they're all of these terror attacks are just so. Parochial manner we just obvious and I'd. Berlin a couple of days ago can happen in any community and you know unfortunately may happen in most communities so I think what the movie does is provide a blueprint. For Hala community. Needs to respond when something like this happen when we wrote Boston's strong. I was just coming off of my book finest hours which is another movie name drop that came out earlier this year but I saw somewhere themes there and gave did as well ordinary people. Given a little training thrust into extraordinary circumstances what do they do. And in Boston which is a very tribal city you know when we have our our disagreements. Neighborhood to neighborhood. But when when they have foreign invaders or whether it's you know British regulars and 1775. For two Chechen Brothers in 2013 the city comes together. And I and I think everybody around the country and around the world needs to see that and say okay if this happens here we can do what Boston did. On the other hand this. It's this thing going on for another week I think that that. Hanging by a thread union of all these different law enforcement agencies. It may have pulled the park I don't know the the fact that they were able to keep it together as long as they did just longer Jesse why are primarily right and he really want us a totally had been the case anywhere I mean if maybe you could really hear it or not they know it. The boroughs it would have been saying it's a great point V because you know as you guys know I covered 9/11 I was down there extensively in there was. Ridiculous in fighting injuries and see down there during that I mean granted that went on for months. But I think there is that is the unspoken thing they did have a marathon I think there is more interagency disagreement. Then people talk about because. Mission accomplished as they caught the guys they got them. But behind the scenes trust me there's a lot of law enforcement folks that that this. Grieve and they are BI did you know and admit has never had a really solid reputation in this city based on its history you know Whitey Bulger except for going back there Joseph marbles on the early 1960s so. I think there Italy's as someone else I know wrote a book about him as well yeah I can name dropped and animal because you showed if people don't know I posing as they should pick up their book by refrigerated axle vita but it's also you know it provides a lot of history to reduce. When and one you know. And holy in many ways relationship that the FBI's had we've. Criminals here in the city so I do think that there is. You know jealousy is in their disagreements that these guys had to overcome like you said at least for a few days right if this episode. Lasted more than five days or you know Steve Breaston Ari. And we and we do as Kim knows and I and it DB read the book as well. We do get into some of that stuff from the book. You know where we write books and so we have the benefit of having more time to tell the story. You know these filmmakers have two hours tops two tellem. A story with 300. Plus people that were injured in some form you know four or five victims you know it's it's it was a tough. Tough call tussle wish that being said you've all heard demand error the governor both decrying that the fallen officer is not an. What's the one story that you wish could've at least. Gotten a little bit older at least acknowledged better than it was in the film because when you write a book like this that you just said keys are so many are Dave there's so many different. Things that could end up on the cutting employ what's the one you well what. Well for me anyways and Dave made news the different idea but. The shock collar character I think in our book obviously we have enough time to spend a lot of time this family and we really got to very solid understanding of who Sean was at 26 years old was buried benevolent. Guy just very charitable young man who used to allow. Homeless people to sleep in the buildings of MIT to get out of coal year that kind of guys who write. I do wish there was a scene. That really captured who for on really was. As opposed to when it happened in the film but again it's moviemakers verses of the people that wrote the book and you know these people are well and I think. Again just you know when people see them all the I think they're gonna make up their own mind but for me it was. It was a good cross section of everything that happened during those five days. And again I book is very different is why there was some books to from the the movie Hubble goes from the day of the bombing. To the first anniversary we did that by design because we wanted to be able to seek. Some of these people recover like Michelle will rue right back to skiing back to ride horses Heather rabbit back on the beach and Reiner panel bullets EC these people recover. Much like the HBO documentary. But to do that the film meet it's that's a that's an impossible tasks like keeping in mind too and I think we've seen this in many scenarios where we have a us out a film that's based on a real life event but these guys are also trying to appeal to people and an entertaining way. So I think you were some facts probably have to be left on the cutting room floor in an effort to make his inner change were much. Heard and we agree that you know and again that's that's what you know Hollywood is an entertainment in his right these they're not making documentaries like. I'm Mikey told Imus ours is a perfect spot and didn't find espouses a perfect example where they don't. You know glamorize that that rescue that in half Q but it actually worked chart now I say I saw the movie was little different from the reality that to me it worked and I and I and I hope. Patriots there works for a lot of people that didn't live it that are watching this movie in Sacramento war Kansas City, Missouri dances while. I can't believe what these people went through and how resilient they are and and how they survived and continue on to this day. We're talking about the were targeted the authors of Boston strongly is Dave wedge and Casey Sherman who's with us and we're of course talking about the movie. Patriots today which opened here in Boston today we're gonna. Ticks and your calls if you'd like to ask the guys some questions you're welcome to do so at 6172666868. It's 914 right here in the W market boston.com morning chuck of course about the bombing back in 2013. Bob he's in new this morning and die I think Bob's got a question for you gentlemen to worry about. Yeah about lining up. I was interested in in them commenting on. The fact that they don't wanna take away anything some. The big guys did did that job they did a great job in spite of the authorities. Within the law enforcement community peers talk about its two guys with a pressured that can bring the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Aren't pleased. Are they really prepared for something that the reason they don't react well at the Boston Marathon bombing. Is that every U. They train for the Boston Marathon. Out in light of the governor just actually in the training budget for the police. I only really prepared for an incident that might be a little more sophisticated. And in the that there get we had everything to me you've talked with a lot on I always look at. The I would disagree with the candidate categorization that it brought the city to its knees I don't think that happened I think. What I saw and I was in the middle of it covering it from the moment those bombs went off I was covered the Boston Herald and I was and all those briefings of all the officials and I was out there wanted to on the middle of the night. And it was scary but it was controlled they were in control. They didn't know where the guys were obviously as an after the wanna tension out that in no way Joseph Carr was. And the shelter in place sort it was a an extreme measure but again I don't think that was. Bringing the city to its knees I think they knew there was a guy out there was bombs possibly sell being activated we didn't know that at the time whether or not that was happening. And they took him extreme steps to catch today and you know it gets whacked it worked. But there was also self deployment for a lot of these law enforcement agencies over new England and that created a problem because. If you can't command. A group of law or law enforcement officers from places you don't even know me mirror. But in a fishing game wardens from Maine. Who wanted to be a part of this policy which that results in friendly fire incidents you know the fact that you know more people weren't. Hurt or hit by gunfire in that little village or that town of Watertown is you know is a miracle. Well Bob I think two is asking you if you think that this city is ready. Was ready gain or would be ready from this point forward as we watch how do you know I'll never thought elderly clients are you right right that's the thing with terrorism in 2016 is every attack is different you don't know where or when it's coming up you don't know what methods can be used we never thought people would use. Airplanes as bombs but that happened to him let me tell you think that you semis I don't know how they are now there are the people forget. So what was their first target they were gonna do July 4 when he asked the monitor they thought he was to protect did exactly I thought they were going to be able to guys who they were already there in remember too they did this leader in the day why. Because it was going to be easier to I think it was who might be less secure in fact it was by like one half hours earlier this was after the elite runners had it crossed the finish line and now you only had families and people a lot of -- an article on you know. In but to Bob's point in my opinion from you know I covered law enforcement for twenty years as a journalist I think Boston. Is among one of the best trained departments in the country I think we hit. Especially now we know we that we create federal funding for a training and I think. That the department does the job with terrorism readiness and let's continue that they say she's basically a police as well not only law enforcement are they a little more vigilant of course there. But our trauma hospitals are are are incredibly turn on the fact that. But not one survivor that made it to the hospital parish and is is is a testament to the training that they've done already but obviously they've you know they've done their assessments after the Boston Marathon bombings they continuously. Train and retrain. So if this ever happens again you know god forbid it does. I think they're gonna even be more and better prepared than they were 2000 or three point of go to Joseph in Hyde Park adoring Joseph your WRKO. Jerry there. Hello Joseph. Which isn't what we're all under I would ask you the question that you guys love to get past and when I say loved I know you're gonna found that people are still ripping you to this day about profiting off of this and how can this movie making any money and like we really gonna celebrate box office when this thing. I know my answer to this as it's called your job but me and you do get paid to do your job but. Do you guys still get asked that periodically and are you comfortable with that conversation. Well to me it's like any any news or organization that cover the marathon during that time you know they've people get salaried. Positions to. Report on what happened I mean that it's the same thing is writers and what Dave and I do and continue to do will do for the next 1015 years at least. He is continuously raise funds for the survivors as we know that every day is Marathon Monday. For these folks we don't you know think about it on the anniversaries we think about it every month we're doing to. Events for. Survivors and heroes next month when the movie comes out nationwide. One for Sharon callers charity and another one for Carlos are condos no. We continuously want to make sure that this story stays alive so that people know that these folks need help. Yet I think you know the food the filmmakers also had its out of the charity. The charitable endeavors well and I think you know as long as people's. Heart's in the right place and in doing what they can for charity I'm OK with it. And like Casey said I mean we you know we spent a lot of time to survivors and our friends that not just. Some people that we wrote about new nose and Winona was a reporter at that Harold is the certain stores it and Kim can tell you from from her work in the news. You can't not get close to some of these people because of the stories is so intense and so compelling. And I just to kind of person Miami get personally invested in that stuff that matters to me. So I do what I can't in my perfect no you know what. A case and I'm Brian house's inner rumor and partying and you know donating you might be used to O'Reilly OK I made it more recently. You know the tone at the premiere. It wasn't like a celebratory. It wasn't a big party you know there was a lot of incredible people there and people at a good time. And but I think really what people would do was paying tribute to this accomplishment to finish in this film and paying tribute to the people who. Who had traumatic experience. Answer always is is this story isn't supposed to be told what's story is a brace on much heroism right so much survival these much. And Galen deciding getting down to business you know it's funny when we when we saw them that documentary that was made on the marathon moms which is a gut punch and absolutely brilliantly made. You know we constantly learned new stories. About what people who have gone through so I think that. You know there is room for you know so many other opportunities to tell these individual stores because hundreds of people. Or impacted directly by what happened and their stories ultimately need to be told as well absolutely with an air care to New Hampshire good morning Eric. I'll say do. Fresh flowers she wish you both Merry Christmas. They are you so much you do. And and now you talked to make I make us then he came from. You that he went to wire act. And it is rarely. I think he came back in. I mean he is really bad. Heat dirty he drank like Arab console they and. And so you get to post traumatic stress Eric is that we didn't do which I think we know when news at bats aren't yet right. Having you know there are survivors that we know very well I don't have any. Physical injuries but they have traumatic brain century and they you know it's it's it's difficult for them to. You know. Maintain their their ordinary daily jobs except for and it's hard for them to get done the medical attention that they deserve because it's hard to quantify how injured they are. And I think you know we when he a favorite people PB senator Warren is actually working with Jessica Patrick downs. On a bill to help victims of of of terror attacks. Be treated like military. And I think that's a Smart thing to do because. Jessica Patrick from from the documentary and you get some sense of from the film and I'm if you know the history the the did living at Walter Reed because that's the only place in the country they can get the treatment they need for the type injuries and Jessica has. So lomb going forward you know when the stuff happens we. Our elected leaders and and people in positions of authority have to respect that and they have to treat these people. With the dignity and the respect they deserve because these these these are this is all new stuff in Houston Texas its new. Well thanks to two guys like you who continue to follow these people's stories it's so important you know they're like you said there are a lot of people who maybe were physically injured that day but who are suffering. I know that I actually have a personal friend who was in the building across the street and just what she went through getting out and what she saw and what she tried to do to help. Has been such power problem and I understand that I really do we. Forget very quickly. When people are in these dramatic situations. Everyone else was all their life the next day or a couple days later. Well now there's another one in Berlin is another one in Zurich and it goes on and on. But the people that experienced that day when your friend right. They relive it all the time and ended people grieve in different and different paces and you know who's to say when it's your time to move. I mean it's human nature where you have to move on if you if you weren't physically or are emotionally and in involved are invested in the story like this but. To Dave's point is. They're people that live it every hour of every day and we have to be cognizant of that moving forward you know in the next 2030 years there people that still are going to be. Pairing the physical and emotional scars of what they went through 2013. Casey Sherman and Dave wedge gentlemen thank you. The book of course is Boston's strong the movie is patriots day comes out today because have a great holiday season Turkic Evans would drop your names like that how. Mountain wilderness I'm editing I drove up there and I'll tell us exactly. If found a thirty here in the the New York you know boston.com points.