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Trump wins but did he help himself? 10-20-16

Oct 20, 2016|

Trump wins but did he help himself? 10-20-16

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It was a fantastic debate you loved it I know that I that don't they're going out because I know that based on our not talked to you must have been watching live tweets or ethnic. I it was an awesome presidential debate trump through his absolute credit. Looked like he belonged on that stage I thought he was. Have run into you know he's gonna do his homework or whatever he did he actually settling into a little bit about foreign policy for the first time in awhile. I thought Chris Wallace was awesome he was everything you want a moderator to be. I thought they both had some really good moments I thought they both had some really bad moments I thought trump won the debate overall by a lot. You would've been a huge win had he not done one stupid thing that everybody told him not to do. Everybody should stop whining about it being rigged and he couldn't help himself that got him into one big problem and that tarnish the home life forms. OK so I would I'm gonna give Donald Trump some props because I do agree with you in that the first hour of it which can we say we said this about a few debates right. First our stayed on message and he was okay and it was actually. In that hour of the first real debate. And I think a lot of that had to do with moderator because he kept it under control. He did an excellent job of letting them respond to one another in yank them off the topic even when he did float away from the question that he was asking. Which I thought was spectacular. And Donald Trump actually did look presidential it was clear that he had done his homework he was prepared with the kinds of comeback lines that we had all hoped we would hear yesterday all those kinds of things. The problem is it when he went off the rails he went way too far and I have a few examples of it and last night only to induce to women and the but of the results Leon of the results those are the two off the rails well I think he had three of them and I have to tell you. The problem. For him today is he did not gain a single voter last night because they've voting bloc that he needs. Are the two that he offended. And CI. II think that this in the end will have not changed the outcome. I think those who support him and a hardcore conservatives who may or on the fence about whether they just want to support him at all or whether they believed in him. I think they they felt better about it when they walked away but I don't think that he helped that voting bloc that he desperately needs to change. Polls do you make the same commitment annual absolutely accept the result of this election I will look at it at the time I'm not looking and and anything now located at the time what I've seen. It's so bad terms of all the media. It's so dishonest and so corrupt. And the pylon is so amazing and they poisoned the minds of the voters said there is a tradition in this country in fact one of the prize in this country just a peaceful transition of power are you saying you're not prepared now to provide an answer is that I will tell you it's a time. Not not good there's no two ways around nobody can defend that and this is the easy thing to say is I'm in our president sure we're all Burke. I don't wearing pass these guys Souza me it's crazy but otherwise of course there's a tradition and Al lot of sports one and won the game's over we shake hands. It's only had to say in any way that I really really good night instead now this is going to be the narrative to narrative is one is that the other's armor which by the way Kim I just looked up just go all the word on marais. What comes up a man especially one of a particular type the example they give the raiders quarterback is one tough arm raised. If that's the example given the man on my that's a racist. Well I'm that I am shocked that you don't see it that way because you're somebody who's pretty sensitive about. These kinds of things in the guys never uttered one single word. Of quote unquote Spanish so we had some bad numbers here and wouldn't get him out i.'s entire life I don't resent any. Yeah and every John Bonham on this one and of course they are Brit I don't know they didn't. I know the word guy we've all Jews do word herb know it and I didn't see is a big problem right. Yes you you're seen as a problem and it's because you're not Hispanic descent and again the problem here. Is not that that's a reason for you not to vote for him and it's not a reason for David not to vote for him. But it's a reason for people whose votes he needs to change the polls. Not to vote for him. I'm looking up like him Merriam Webster you are trying to find where one of music forever though BBA doesn't make any difference tell me what I'm sure sir you're a white guy from. Fine. If I look up certain words they say a you know derogatory. So far I haven't found a definition here that says that on any this is my third different sites they have not said that they just say. Talking tough or bad usually in front of I'll pray. But it doesn't don't say the HI don't and that's the that did this hombre right you don't think Humber patent. But it doesn't make any difference because again this is it that debt it's got nothing to do we view. It's got nothing do with the base that is gonna support him it's it's it's those kinds of comments. That are alienating him from a portion of the voting base that he meet. Here's my thing on the reason why bring it up his idea I think what happened last night is. It represented trump to teach his high days or so much higher than her highs. But his lows are so much lower than his lows in emea and what people focus on is not the stuff that should be it's the stuff like commerce for her. Her highs aren't nearly as high as it is her lows. Just seem to get ignored which would be the Clinton foundation answer which was a disgrace. In she ends up walking away unscathed. This represents who they are in how people view them to a T. I agree with that a 100% you're absolutely right every word that just came out of your mouth but the problem is best. Because his ties are so high in his lows are solos in low it leaves people to wonder if he has the kind of temperament which needs to be right smack dab in the middle. To be president of the United States it's been one of the biggest questions. Associated with Donald Trump throughout this entire two years that he's been running for president and when he continues to make the low so low. It gives people reason to question whether he has the temperament to be the president the United States. Last night he needed to come out there and do what he did the first hour and maintain it be easy got to gain voters. And instead he let this get under his skin he'd let some things bother him and then he drop down that low that he cannot do. And it didn't help and we went on the question of the women for example. He doubled down bet it was bill women's fault. And not he has not I'm not sure how you answer that because obviously he has said he he did not do it. But I know one way you don't do it is to turn it around and accuse. Women. Well first of all those errors had been largely debunked. Those people don't know those people I have a feeling how they came I believe it was her campaign that did it just. But that's that it isn't it just blame it on her campaign he went on to to blame it on the women involved. If they wanted their fifteen minutes of fame if they won this that they wanted that. He needs women. To vote for him and that did not help. No taxes in somber is bad they also unsure ask Hispanics because I am one and I don't think it's an offensive term. I think hombre is going to be a funny thing over the green I don't think anyone thought it was offensive until trump said it and then they immediately thought I must it must be offensive because drum set. Why not just say we got some bad guys in this country I'm bray is a word I would use it as a tough. Hassle me so that's what he was yours and that's that's an older phrase but. I did I just think it's funny how that one's gonna go. As for him on women. There was a great he said no respect women more than me again I rolled my eyes and then he proceeds through the two times women came up. Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Hillary said there are nasty pretty tall if I get a it's thought Ariel way but it's this is not the new I mean he. It didn't I know it's not new but that's the problem within this is why the polls are what they are because he's got to get what we've been. To vote for him in time and time again he essentially just says. You know I I. I don't believe in women I think women are lying I I don't respect women he tries to say he respects women ever seen the evidence of that. I mean it's 53% of the electorate I mean it was doing. Okay well so let's start or this vision negative now gimme some positive about the guys I couldn't believe how we came out of the box with his acknowledged. Of the issues which is I've been begging for the whole time and I was very very impressed with the way came out. Dad he added back in this is the first debate you'd be like man he's out there look this thing he's gonna take this thing he. They always say better late than never but sometimes the latest through late in my theory is that this is delayed. But if that's the guy that started these debates than the first one was like this we would have been like man we are rockets aren't Emeril bosses is going to be awesome. I agree I agree that he he had a very good night by now a lot of people made up their mind and they've made up their mind on him. So I don't know that he chief I think he won his battle I think he's gonna ultimately lose the war. Six point 72666868. Who won. And why do you think they won let's talk about that right after the break it's now 613 of the WRKO boston.com and news anyway. This is where you'll be heard WRKO. Called police Abbas and. He has consistently denied what is wrong it very clear fact that drew the short the invasion he supported it Google Donald Trump Iraq. He was for the invasion of Iraq wrong. Wrong. And I mean nobody cares at this point where even the tough part about it is that. Will we win they had the first hour of substance. Which I enjoyed. Playing here or anything new I mean again so Hillary had refused. Put it we know what you mean he was the conservative that he claims to be in the first hour. Hockey star Mirant. Some. You know Republican values I appreciate all that I really didn't know there's one thing you didn't read yours which is that was the first time I heard definitively that I expect to overturn roe V where a group of judges that I you have allies are helpful in that second half and either and again that it. If that's big hit. You're right that that discussion. But that's that's a that's where I differ from its current conservatives and hard core republic. That guy is but you know what I'm taking from what you just said it to open the show was that you were disappointed in him because he did so well. That you're disappointed in the fact that it's not gonna affect him. Which shows me that you came around to Donald Trump. Well I think now I'll tell you what I what I'm disappointed in I'm disappointed in the fact that he did not put. He didn't I feel like. It this stage of the game if he's not gonna let his true supporters down that he needed to step up and try to get more votes. And less that I didn't feel like that effort was there I felt like he he'd spoke to the base. But he did not waver on the issues that he knows are keeping him from some other voters. And in that way I think he'll let some of his supporters down. I he didn't let anybody down who did very well all. He called her out and so much stuff your records parable this is what you've done this is where you band and things have gotten worse fit do you think that change anybody's vote but he's Bubba as some point here three weeks out like you've been over this stuff you can't now all of a sudden have a new policy or whatever like he did it well he did tightly he did it were we supposed to be in saline creek he nevertheless Paul moment like. He knew. I when they brought up Mosul my domain and get out of this question your effect he's saying he wasn't good life at all as a follow up by laws and new. He's only gonna have my answer but no he stayed on it pretty well he was good he had a very good very effective night. Except for a couple of blunders I think Roe vs. Wade was costly and his. The rig election thing has been I hated it from the start and I thought her answer on that was very effective for her. Other than those two things and I know that's a lot because he's if he's indeed trailing in you can have those characters but other note look operatives like. I gave Walsh an A minus for last night I give trump a bead because of the rigged election otherwise he would have been a B plus and minus. And I give Hillary a C which is what I usually giver or worse because. No one's talking about her anything she said today which is what she wants to happen. But she's also for get a bowl on this thing because it's all about him. Always have but it and I I agree with that but she'll wish she won me. Is that nobody's talking about heard ice is sent you know what you see and on and I'm right I mean it didn't. That's why it if she'd made some kind of huge gaffe. I mean she didn't she didn't say anything I think changed anybody's mind about her either. If you don't like are you still don't like her and you think that she's not telling the truth and if you are all in your role in. She's leading so she and her need to say anything else the public home. Was that he needed to say some things not to bring some people over to his side and I think he may have alienated some of those people even further let's. Feel like we're you know once shame that you believe that there's an invisible vote for Donald Trump out there are so I do think there's an invisible vote Dave but I don't I have but I don't think a lot of that invisible vote are some of these key demographic groups that he needs. Yeah I just I think the people for the most part of made up their mind and and it just comes down to do we believe he has an invisible vote or not that's it that's when it comes out of not at what could he really have done last night. To really change anybody's mind I I don't think he can have anything at this. Let's see with the RKO on Marisa thank shall we inject some music that turmoil there I just looked it up again. In the Spanish to English dictionary com brain Spanish English man. Man. The president. I pray forgetting is that true context in which she was using it is well we have some bad arm raise some bad man. OK hey if that's what you wanna think. He was specifically using it in reference to sending people out of this country to war illegals. And we all know the things that he has said about Mexicans. And we all know how we stands on that so then to suddenly used. He's gonna send people out who are bad arm brace but we had some bad numbers here and get a map I'll. I have a long list of words I don't use number is is not going on and I yet convinced me otherwise we took calmer when you talk just get a veneman expect. Andy is in Boston this morning good morning in the RW RK OI guys I ending day. They yard dart board trumpet really well below last night. You know I I run our run our particular little Bristol being a judge. That I'm talking about the name of but it was a good to have people come. And the talk about the debate to do it why it commenting when these things first started yeah those oil that was the last one I think we have like 500 members like that now. And they're almost everybody wanted to convert these are she was saying that. If Hillary was the one with the bad government last night and Hillary don't usually get flustered it would wounding her for example wouldn't I'd remarks. You know every second Carter era of low blows all I'm Yoshi she didn't go high she was lol lol all might walk. Yeah I agree and share couple moments where he definitely got under ski and she also had some good moments where. I killed you know he did sort of prudent over the military and intelligence leaders that are paid to protect us that was a pretty good stick. She got to work she had some good lines she had some bad lines. Her Clinton foundation answer was horrific nobody Bob that for a second and trump Starker pretty well. Which I'm not sure why in the world she was not better prepare the next question in the in the fence and I think that's I think that's right. Eight you always know there's a problem with Hillary Clinton when she goes. Moon. Acres because she's not an. Harder on the things that she's prepared and you know when she pivots quickly all the stuff as we pointed that out so they did bring up these emails and Jimmie he'll do it trump had the great Garland owns and how do we get opponent. Bush talked about you when you're dirty my business and now word because that's what she did when in doubt. Did the computer glitch juniors and get garage absolutely I think February benzene and all. Yeah well I I I actually I had didn't laugh out loud when he did say that you because I thought there you go now that is his. He has been coached because he even recognized. This he had pitted which no doubt he'd been told the dude too at times and that's what do you do with these in these debates als and Arlington Al good morning. Hey hey good morning out. Ford theater the election is rigged and in total is the only one saying Matt. And so I personally had my or suppressed. I would audit. I really funny it is Diaw back in 2009. Per candidate. They've got this candidate noticed. It had millions of hits him in that a couple of days. Can't find Byrd walked up to me instead. You're the first person. Who's come out on the attack against Obama you're the only person a late night comics. Nobody else but but you come out with this video it's hilarious to mocks Obama it's funny. And then I start hearing in the news about. This these issues with the IRS and the next thing you know I got hit. And I know so many people that were in charge of Tea Party outfits that were officially take take dot. Hit by the IRS that year. And and you know it just it's just a constant drumbeat that corruption from these people. George Soros owns loading machine CNN cut off the feat when you talk about WikiLeaks. And I think that voter suppression is real voter suppression coming from collapse. In Donald he'll be personal they're giving voice to that so we are in a parish that part of our history here where if Hillary gets elected. She planned to me I'm not gonna accept her as she unjust Bill Walker and say she's not my president. All I don't Eliezer Ferraro who let me ask how this because yesterday we asked the bunch of people we're all together yesterday afternoon we said what are you feel about his language of a rigged election. Every one of them said it comes office him whining so I identify with the you identify with a but did it help him last night. No I I I think he did it is effectively respond as to why the that doesn't. For me undercut seats. Actual underlying truth and it's it's permeates this bad situation where. I wish it was leaked out there instead of Donald because I think I'd be a more effective advocate. Are they. Are now I'll not based on wages and so far right now sovereignty of the one I thought her gas line was. Gee you thought they Republican primaries are rigged when you lost and you thought the enemies are rig when no lost them and now you've that you lose and as you think this is Greg you seem to think a lot. That was pretty effective image just as a slam on him when he. Didn't erupt right I'd goal and an answer and it's true by the way it is when he pulls out the you know he thought the polls were fantastic to the polls turned and then he couldn't quoted a polls when he was ahead. That's horrifying. You know every time Donald thinks things are not going in his direction he claims. Whatever it is is rigged against him. I the FBI conducted a yearlong investigation into my emails they concluded there was no case he said the FBI was rigged. He lost the Iowa caucus he lost the Wisconsin primary. He said the Republican primary was rigged against him then trump university get sued for fraud and racketeering. He claims the court system and that's federal judges rigged against him. There is even at time when she didn't get an Emmy for his TV program three years in a row already started tweeting that the Emmys were rigged a. Sure guy there was good I wish you could feel the IOU 16 coin flips generally known of the economy that that's not the squirrelly ones you mentioned that. Says cigarette 7666. He hit the hit it it is the number code to do Gaza right after the break and listening the WRQ Boston back towards kids. Breaking news alerts delivered right to your phone text alerts to 68680. Candidate in the streets quite frequently recurring varies from the boys of Boston that when you okay well. Heard Donald Trump saying. The opposite of what you and his daughter had set the past 24 hours about whether or not he will accept the results of this election. We're very disappointed in you disappointed in his answer I'm. He's playing his thing tonight but is it amazing to me and tell us hopeful accepting result election because he's been winning elections that will be easy to accept. Can not technically you can. Featured. Joan asp points it Louisiana an excellent answer to that yeah she did that was the only way that you can go within I I was impressed with the way she dealt with it. Let's go to do rob who's in the whole Brett. Good morning rob. Good morning what's up on right. Well I think Hillary probably would have done herself well but better favor she jump in with that Joseph Stalin hairdo and now look a little more butch but ducks. I wanted to it's great that burden part of the debate he did about. It if you which sticker on his message and really go to other battleground states and just keep hammering away all most points. And lay out the personal attacks I think he can pull this off because Hillary's not gonna campaign. You know sure her help this year it is an issue. And she could sit there and rest up for a week and happened come out but look at Michael Rose but issue you have to go out there and hammered day by day by day. You're gonna see her pull a Jerry Ford and all down the dams stairs. Trust me it's government. Rob I'm not sure I agree with that that latter part of that I think that she's gonna campaign and we're gonna see here although she's. It right now sitting you know in a good spot. But how tough to stop but that Dallas yes she's real debate but early date she looks healthy as a horse. I thought one of the injured to the only interesting thing I got from watching the pre debate stuff which I really don't I like that even less than pre Super Bowl guess. Doing amazing thing was a they both said let's stand and let's have some distance between us earned him. How. If she has the health concern is that everybody says I don't think she's healthy the horse for sherbet. I think she's healthy zinni said Sierra all she's fine for two debates in a row she was on our feet for ninety minutes which people have tried to convince me she can't do. And she didn't waffle or waiver big mean you don't give grabber bearings or whatever. She's healthy enough for I mean that's just whose arguments ram one as the health argument the other is the race thing because the week bing Jessica. Regardless of what they've arrested yet but it just sounds whiny when used. You can wind up paying OK so let me ask our listeners and those of you were on hold a one I'm asking you as well. So today what does she do when he goes back out on the stop what is he gonna say easy going right back to that ring dishes does that worry left off. Before he went to this debate Vegas I'm. Is that worries gonna pick up because rob just said if he wants to win this thing he's got to stop the personal. You know attacks at. To the par I don't know they can do that I don't know if he's even just keep a bowl of doing it. And if he's still on the stump and talk like he did the first hour to be a right. Pete but after that last debate you do which you've been doing so when he goes out he's gonna give the same speech he's gonna mention that he's gonna talk about the wall. He's got a thought about our crooked she is is gonna talk about where you league's gonna do all that stuff I mean the people that are at those rallies. Are pretty much in already shields a few appearances she's gonna make she's gonna do the same things she does which is. Gimme more money trust me I know I look crooked but I'm not and they're good they're going to do the same things. And now you keep your fingers crossed that WikiLeaks find some thunder really he's gonna talk about a rigged election yes though that he's being criticized yes. Debbie is in South Boston good morning. Do me. Good and I just heard about John embraced resentments and little Austin but I do not exist it is part of it always I think it's great. And a boy you may. Or equipment or edited out so I'm. The list down to the media the subject came up Tar Heels when he ousted him back for money from Saudi Arabia through. That was that was one thing. PG a cartoonist and quite what she did is he app and he's so little spy. When he tossed talk the bulk of all the baby I don't know nine months that was pretty evangelicals. I agree. The other thing that you don't assume it is there groundswell. I kid Charlie Ottawa I don't touch I Java night. I asked 3000. People and I got a rock star through the rope check marks an hour. Gordimer who bought yeah well I can't so. 200 dollars and is totally unscientific us west do that this court and since Billy Idol apparently without this yeah we don't panic you could get out. 286. People. Say that they would come out of that we will Bolton yeah. 341. I'm not only Boccieri so loudly and that's which just over 2500. People. And again it is it's a funeral homes all I did my coach. And sure we and what about the view and attested to rebel Hillary. Fifty. And they didn't realize this candidate was dead so it didn't bother answering the. The that's scientific actually give you die hard or else are you. I'm very impressed when we are dying for those results allegedly tonight known as the funeral home but he's gonna be our next pollster we start going to I don't regulars say there's any I don't want my studies and that's what they do things that he's got a he's got a group today comes in any town and heads. And we saw some resource like 098. Mark is in Salem good morning mark your WRKO. Hey good morning good morning. A couple things I know that the opening out of everything that happened in the first don't have yet they already would be in the top news story can be just like. Is it volume aren't always good illegal immigration that's not important to somber monsoon. Redwood national debt is not important. The problems were be with the Middle East that's not important. But I am saying number is the most important thing that happened all of last night. No it's not the most important dubbed them the most of. If you open up any of the guns which we got the first thing. Not zombie computer that the first the first thing is anymore news radio on of the the audio was also announced the. And then and then a couple of things. They indeed remarkable rigged election. I know a lot of people say that it's funny how when he says that the rigged election and you whining. But when the Russians are hacking emails. Yeah national security. What a good reference did hit the Russians are coming out and bringing out information that the media won't bring no. And I don't care and the Russians got to give it my neighbor I don't care did you guys the information that needs to believe. Open air and didn't end that's what employ about. She whined when he says things you know one thing the raw read when it anyway and she says things that are you know against Jerry it's national security. Well mark I disagree with you on that comment now look we don't know if the Russians are involved here or not. We don't know what it is and maybe you see that as her whining. I am disturbed by the idea that the Russians may be hacking anything. You know I I don't like that at all and that that may be that may be her emails today and that may be. I don't know what tomorrow so you America just as easily be you what is your with Marco Rubio came out yesterday and said you know obviously he condemns yeah I mean. That that angle we don't know if it's true you know that that could be them whining because they've been released. But don't don't just loss you know just just push aside the idea that I don't care who tacky yes you do you do care you don't want the Russian attack in anything. Six or 726668608645. 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