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VB's not too please with the SJC ruling on racial profiling 9-21-16

Sep 21, 2016|

VB's not too please with the SJC ruling on racial profiling 9-21-16

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Unlike the signal that was sent to police officers here in Massachusetts yesterday which is just unbelievable to me. And you are the guys who came in and said you know through paper guns that are you kidding me camp. And I hadn't even seen this note and tell people what happened here. That's supreme judicial court pastures CIA has scored in the commonwealth ruled yesterday that. They've gone conviction of a guy in 2011. Black guy is going to be thrown out why because. He was grabbed the here's deserves it his calls made from Roxbury of a break him. Description given pretty vague but two black guys and Ortiz is basically the description. Cops show up on the scene thirty minutes later. They start. Trying to question black guys in Ortiz that are walking around and narrowed to a bomb. Ignore the cops and keep walking and they're asked again and say look we want a quick word whatever they ignore the cops finally after a foot chase. Officer Christopher Karr arrest one of these guys because he would not stop and talk to the top. It is then found out they've done is found on the lawn. Where he first approached again. He arrest amazed charge of gun possession and these convicted of that that conviction was thrown out why. Because. Blacks have a right to fear the re coloring indignity of being racially profiled. And that is why they may not have been cooperating with the cops. So fear of being profiled is now and except that it's acceptable legal defense for not cooperating. Or not doing what everyone always says just do what the cops in everything will be OK now now in this case. You are given a weapon by the courts. To ignore the cops. And so the description of two black guys in Ortiz who was apparently not enough for the cops to question two black guys and Maurice. And one of those black guys and already had a drive and it was convicted in and out of conviction is now being thrown out. And were being told by the way that this is great this is to glow brings this is awesome. The NAACP thinks this is fantastic. And I'm sure people around the country are celebrating this as some sort of great boost for morale. Whereas I look at this and say this is unbelievable that there hamstring and cops like to I don't know when you question anybody in Roxbury neighborhood now do you think. It either one of those men as they were not following police orders and stopping to chat with them. Thought you know we could be. The aids through the victims of profiling here so let's just keep walking because he's kept a word no is a crime rate if they make it out like this that they consciously made that decision because. They felt that they could be that it now. There walked away because they knew they had a gun in their pocket. And they knew that there were. Issues. Even more offensive in his ruling. Quote. The initial investigation failed to transform the defendant from a random blackmail and dark clothing traveling the street to Roxbury and cold December night. Into a suspect in the crime of breaking and entering and Kuo. In other words. If it turned out he why is the breaking and entering some guys. Then it would've been okay. So another words in last year results yield us that's insane. How could possibly be runner up at how can there be any results. They can't get the result right can't stop the guy right but they they didn't because. I mean I'm stunned that they threw that I don't know what legal expert would say yet that that's good legal precedent. The end. Justified the means in this case the ends didn't justify the means and so we throwing out. I think this is the most horrific as JC ruling I've seen in awhile only the only thing close to it is when the black guy. Got a question I think it was in Fall River New Bedford and he had the crack pipe in his pants. And they said the officer wasn't within his rights to search the guy's pants right. I don't get it I don't care 61726668686086. City is attacks lion New York calls after the break gate 42 of the W marking a boston.com mortgage giants this commitment to their coffee and cookies for. They're always about to get me and I got change now today get ready get out you know and as she does it he's a legend they clean it out there all the stuff that committee I just I've made it this. Well yeah chase Johnny and let's hear the story. He struck. I know but a life for the cleanup and a plot a thought I. 978 and attacks on BB not a big fan. Must say however from week you'll all the way here in situation like this US if anyone in the area. We use their Gemini you do with it this is didn't meet him how it was early I was profiled once I remember I mean. I'll Massachusetts of all places blue lights Columbine my brother was drive and pulled over cop doesn't say anything other things get out of the car now. Wow what the hell it is late at night too were coming back from a movie. On his hands on the hood of the car guys frisking them prizes okay. How to call over break in about a mile down the road your vehicles somewhat fit the description just had checked you know you guys have a good night. We were we a little taken aback at the time and you know what you did you did what he told to do or I armed robbery armed intrusion. I was taken no chances I won my law enforcement taking no chances if the description of these two black guys in authorities in you'd see two black eyes and nobody's. You can't now stop them in question. We. Currently. As an officer you just cannot stop like many at all. Again why are they will leave at that time that there are being were racially profiled that's what the that's what that judgments that wall to. In attempting to avoid the recurring indignity of being racially profiled. A black person can walk away probably jobs right I'm wondering if a black person has to pull over when lights go on behind him. I feel like it's DWB and I didn't want to stop because I didn't sick and tired of being profiled as a driver. Would you talk about a bad precedent right. Blackmon to flee when approached by police may be reacting to racial profiling. Rather than trying to hide criminal activity and part of it or we're constantly told we don't like that there are two sets of rules this is two sets of roles. I would get stopped and I can't say it but but now they can in this case Davis at Boston this morning Dave good morning. There aren't actually out mentally it's very now that that's in traffic is moving right along gang enhancement. I think if I was a black guy that probably would not anywhere and other local black and yet you are at risk sure attire or something that stand out a little differently but it just me. Well gee how can you imagine though you know it could be that that it was a bank robbery of the guy he manage certain time. And black guy and he's on main street in if they see a black eye lock in on the street is certain time they weren't just questioned him he can run. I finally a phone book through brick depict a quick change. It's just I mean it's ridiculous it again and I stand here you can't stop anyone who first of all the guy did have a gun on them. I mean. So let's say he was profiled by Christopher Karr the officer in question here and I'm not calling him a profiler racist that's GC seems to be implying it some economy. There was the guy did have the gun and he was convicted of it. What's the problem. One less crime there absolutely I just don't you edit these yes it's not an excuse to just going to enable it to round up but everybody in. Let's see if there are crimes going on. They fit that description the limited description that was given there was two of them they were black. They were wearing goodies right you're telling me that's not enough to at least say hey. Can have a quick word. Doesn't mean I say every guy's big lift up your shirt drop your pants in bend over and by the way already on how have these guys stopped. And they said we're rating may not have known whatever way do you wary unite or you know what he even doing and where you're headed whatever. I think I had. I'm on gun. If the officer wouldn't see that they would have walked right away and he was when the guy drop begun on the day on the. Lawn and start running unlucky break for him that there was an armed robbery committed to breaking and entering committed where he was with the gun tough break but guess what you got caught. Doesn't Quincy joke that morning. All the money. Chairman BB. Recently I was polo. Baez state trooper Matt state trooper. And it you know it's all over. Do right it was supposed to agility. Tomei is speed to race you have stops on weren't so. And I replied no I know I did not. There are a breach blow my. Gonna come my book my golf odds. To get my. Relations and registration. And then. What do you think you didn't act. I would hope we told you get out of the car. No. I did not reach in my lies and registration until he actually that OPEC. And then they're busy road during daylight always. And in. I want controlled trial those day. White supremacy and its usual weights spiritual pot but I was not a profile. As a way it's a permanent look that ratio. This comes at all uncomfortable. Ourselves. Very. Very. Right hand corner is so your point Joseph that if you were black you would have shot you. Yeah no it's Iowa whether whether it was a black cops. He won the shark meat and what I was a black bribery people in the sharply. And my simple point is. The police don't Foleo mobile saw no reason. They've got hurt not to blow you off that they prefer not to forward won't Wear that there was less crime period. And you know we had a a while abiding citizenry citizenry. So. Look I agree I think that the court is he so removed from reality here. There's a reason why the SEC is an in Roxbury for example maybe they out of to have a month there for years that they can understand this neighborhood. The high crime neighborhood that it is in the trouble that cubs deal with a on a daily basis there in a reason why. These two guys might look at least suspicious enough that the cop wanted to question them. It's hard for me to believe they think they progress break the law and order here with this decision so if your police officer out there I wish you would call six months of. 2666861. Texas at success in succeeding. Because. I'd like to hear number one your reaction to this number two how in the world do you plan to go forward at this point I mean is there. Is there a way to get around this. Boy let's find this suspect or question anybody that we're not aware off because to meet this feels like this is tying their hands so tightly. That people can just run amok in windows a description of the suspect fitted discretion of the suspect unless it says. It's a Mickey Mouse hoodie in its horn on the left shoulder. You can't question a guy now. But can't under the defense of they might feel like you've been I'm. They might they may read only because they're being pro Iran echoing indignity. Of being racially profile. A look at the pollen Quincy this morning Paula good morning. Say good morning guys. You know what I am on this subject DVRs totally disagree with you ever you know the reality of the situation as. There are racially there's racial profile happening on the streets of Boston Lebanese city on a daily basis and unfortunately because of that. Steps need to be taken. To ensure that the bad cop to leave it out I think it's important to. Question everything. That a police officer does every arrests. That a police officer. Does because it'll make their jobs. It'll weed out the bad ones. You know they keep to keep the good ones audits and it's unfortunate but it's 30. More visible. What do you what do you think in this case. See these these these guys conviction was thrown out because of the recurring indignity of being racially profiled you know you gonna happen around that neighborhood. There are currently dignity of armed robberies in great team to new heights. Disguise in the Wimbledon that they can do this. And why Arianna street enjoy your question Miyazaki torture description is. You're not gonna profile me I was gonna keep on walking and if you stop me. It's gotten tossed the only way it doesn't stop you always have the cops can prove that you were the guy right. It's true economy. Wipo you're absolutely right but what's gonna happen. If we continue to let these police offices. Racially profile people. What do you think happening as well so there's a call goes out it is a breaking in Iran you think to CommScope beautiful let's go round up some random bad guys. I think that's perhaps. Here though I'm not saying it's that in this case such without. But it's. What are we going to do only does that somehow the I don't that doesn't happen all the time he would be able company people are so angry today what it's sick to angry but not them. Yeah I know a lot of cases whereas I think in Ferguson and they're ranked. Okay Ron Maclean was how long ago. Happening. Now walk out. People are Chinese. People are angry but they're angry because of things there's a perception that is not reality Ferguson. Not reality. Baltimore. I don't know there was acquittals and every case so I would say Baltimore not reality New York not reality the organic you should keep. Going down the list you tell me what's Warren didn't what's not but that. He is right that there is there is fine fine absolutely there is profile so what's the what's the answer to that I'm wondering if the answer to that is more. And this this came out and Ferguson case if police departments. If bear demographic. Needs to be closer to the demographic. Of the communities they police. Is that the cancer while in Charlotte it was a black cop that shot the black guy in what we got we got rioting and looting going on it's now. 859 of the WRKO Boston coverage.