May 4, 2016|
Jim O'Sullivan, Boston Globe, on the Results of the Indiana Primary
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The boston.com. Morning show on the voice of Boston and WRKO. 836 OW RK a boston.com Morningstar number 61726. X 6868. Pat is on a cell this morning. Good morning. I'm terrific thank you. You. Are doing a great. I. Or might not be. Here. You shouldn't be too hard and should. Cochran and war. Shoot. This one. I. Do. You cut. Tree. Here. People that people are people were checked. Hearing and block joke over. Until it's. They shank. It here and get that job. And not only that him it's while he was saying that. What are you got an opposition to that you got rubio had a gang of eight major problem and you got Jeb Bush saying illegal immigration is an act of love. That was the easiest counter ever. So not only is trump making his point then the air boosting him even further. With the. Or stuff. So yeah not just you were gonna stop there had been a lot and I just added and it is very clear. My point was that if you were going to stop him or have a snowballs chance. It held the stopping and you had to have done last summer and know every body in there in the Republican Party was deaf. To the fact that people were saying what that woman just they were deaf to it. They absolutely did not attempted to stop him at that point if there was going to be any chance that was it. And they missed I think you know I spend the money in the last four months that was a waste of dollars. I think the only chance if there was a chance which I don't think there are laws but I'll. Wait when they're making Kelly stuff happened in when he made that comment that accumulated in the summer what was coming out of her one after August. The exact moment due needed. Paul and Mitt Romney John Boehner you needed every Republican leader you could be in one room in front of a television camera saying. We will not stand for this kind of stuff in our party we are disavowing the man who set it. We disavowing the statements and we are not that is not the Republican Party you women and then you had to put on him. You are the most anti woman disgraceful woman kick. I don't know that it what do where Condoleezza Rice at that moment. That is who they should've brought out that would have been your hours exactly what it really made I don't think it would work I don't Amy not a daily time someone's taken on trumpet his pen to their detriment including his movement and I don't think that. Anything they did was ever going to stop him. Jim O'Sullivan from the Boston Globe has just stepped into the studio to join our conversation good morning hello are we seeing yourself are really wanna be in the middle of this car is not. Fascinating thing not only the what happened last night but. What they've tried to do and how inept Lee it has gone. Well it's it's stunning and the word inept I think news is apt because. It's Sony's covered politics fairly long time. I spent all of Tony fifteen being wrong about the truck you know we got Iraq right at the press got it wrong. The establishment got it wrong. Everybody got it wrong but Donald Trump and and to wake up today and sort of today is it is a reckoning day and it's it's sort of it's time to digest and really understand what's going on in American politics I think. What everybody got wrong was we focused on the candidates right we focused on the horse race which is how we typically cover campaigns. Instead of looking at the electorate. And that's understanding what's driving the electorate and the electorate. The Republican primary electorate today for the first time since 1984. In Ronald Reagan. Is pretty happy with the nominee you know they they stomach. Mitt Romney and John McCain and to a lesser extent. George W. Bush he had the evangelical thing he had the Texas thing. But he was a compassionate conservative which was basically code for independent voters. They didn't like Bob Dole but he certainly didn't like George H. W. Bush and now for the first time. They've got to nominee with whom they're pretty happy and for the the establishment for the media the mainstream media. It's it's sober. Printing is in New Hampshire this morning French. Good morning you're on WORK well. Which you overstate it on the radio and what would you tell him and he keeps saying everybody's got it wrong in regard to. Had determining trumps outcomes the year ago. The people got it right. Maybe that's trash sitting here right side. The people that are right a year ago and they in shops and to volley probable explanation of this. The voters are wrong in. The media. Fred she went when Donald Trump announced he was running for president did you think to yourself this guy's going to be the nominee I think that no. I mean I. I think we all I want is gonna get a lot fodder. And you know we've got a character in here and there might get some WW we are even some ultimate fighting going on but. I don't think that people thought at that moment that this is going to be the guy and I think it originally there was a lot of what you said to him we got a checking to see with his about it also. We wanna be a part of this for as long as you go all out. More exactly I think a lot that is what was happening in the early stages of that campaign. The last summer and you do we were saying it before you came into there the conversation. That. Weaver Weaver actually asking people who would attended the huge 25 and 30000. Person rallies which were shocking. Why are you bear a lot of or just like because I just wanna see and I wanna see what did you put out. Right they made a decision yet they just wanted to be like DB just at a part of what was happening. I am telling you right now and as I know that that caller is saying you know what the media got it wrong but the people knew all along. Know all along I think people aren't sure what it was all about but wanted to be a part of what was sort of a summer fling he was spotted. Right in the confirmation that is the number of people that you've come across and I came across them in New Hampshire and Pennsylvania in Nevada people who were picking between trump and Bernie. Right in this. A lot of them words were two time Obama votes I go back to Lou the woman I met up in Selma Hampshire in early December after trump. Propose the depend on Muslims coming in the country and she said. Look my husband husband and I've. Voted both concert Obama in 08 Indian twelfth and we're door knocking and we're making phone calls for trump. Because they like the outsider and they don't like they didn't like the way the country's headed in the 08 they don't like the way the country's headed in sixteen. And they want somebody from outside the system who is gonna come in and where she used was sometimes he needed junkyard dog and they saw it in trump that junkyard dog so and. Don't you think like again because they keep showing you the numbers with independents last night in Indiana a seven 22 in return. Isn't this Trump's big cell is like who do you think the go into the back corner and common in my time has come boys right I I I'm still a little skeptical that he's. To be able to get the movement liberals and Larry have have fuel burn so. The Bernie coalition is a lot of those outside of voters and people who want somebody from outside the system in somebody's gonna come and shake up Wall Street. But a lot of those folks aren't our college kids. 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So here in the studio like with this as well. David you went to another caller to hear it looks like governor the call show of friction we tried to get on earlier let's try one more time here Virginia New Hampshire good morning. I sort there's Richard. That you collect call to ensure. I'd say a actually believe the year I'm sure well. Didn't either agree Lebow and sure I'm glad we took French bank. W on our commercial. Or accuracy Jim it is. You say not too many people here are Donald Trump well I mean I remember. When it I don't think I said that and say no to me people care form I know better. Say something close. Smokers or not that are. Were some senator. Why she washed and you'll oh. Well that's true I'm not gonna vote for him but having said that I didn't say that people don't like I don't what I had to rise women well yet and that's still true but what I think what you heard me say was that last summer. When those crowds were showing up people had not decided they were gonna vote for him a lot of people came out just to see what it was all about. Think as a reality star and people wanted to see this star. And be part of it and I stand by that that at that point that is why people were coming down. Well I appreciate your comments and thank you very much Adobe. It'll caller again. Thank you very tragic Jim O'Sullivan I talked to Tim about this earlier where I've bomb belong meant a subscriber to. Which candidate do you wanna have a beer with theory and I think that often times holds true Elizabeth Warren Scott Brown notwithstanding. Trump doesn't drink. Right but that nobody actually look. You look at the two that were laughter of two days ago and asked or at the three if you wanna put Fiorina and since she got dragged into this is week. Which of those three would you want to have a V airwaves right I mean isn't it doesn't that theory at least in the primary come true on the other side I don't know what either borrow from it. And and not just that but it. You can take a step further and many Americans feel like they have had to withdraw because he's been in their living rooms for remote. God knows how long that TV show was on but he says he's a familiar and a 100% name ID this. It's remarkable this that this general election campaign you had to you have two candidates in trump. And likely democratic nominee Hillary Clinton who had going into the primary 100% mainly beat everybody knew these strike yes we'll continue to learn about them and they'll continue to quote unquote educate us about each other. But these are too familiar faces and you're gonna have you're gonna deal with. All the Clinton psychodrama from the ninety's and all of what trumpets and I mean. Nineteen years ago on Howard Stern reading tale that even yesterday you had you have Ted Cruz talking about it remarkable moment in American politics. The the soon to be. Ousted rival of the the presumptive Republican nominee. Talking about Donald Trump bragging about his venereal disease are not having it right on program in the end and comparing it to Vietnam and it's just it's it's mine that you you realized that these folks. Their baggage is fully packed. In the American people know about it and that's what they're bringing in the job I was uncomfortable that because a lot of people call me be the accidentally or not in so I was like. Hey at least you look good name any any so he's got her directly to piggyback on your beer that thing yeah I want you Beckham that he also talking about the things. That people are talking about while they're consuming Beers at the ball and that's why people are relating to this they're not. Not assist terrorists are we talking about all this policy differences that Ted Cruz I don't but let me say this deal. How can I get your idea of the people who wanna have a beer with three comfortable with the idea but. I don't mind having a beer with with date but I don't want him to be my president. And I mean so I don't. I don't feel that way about Donald Trump I might I'm my feeling about him is yeah I think he's entertained and he's funny and but I don't that doesn't mean I want him. Be my president yet and I don't have a billion dollars to spend trying to speak on behalf of the American people he has all the money in the world to speak on causes that the American people care. So they want a guy like that who's an outsider who can go this basically for the most part almost on his own. I mean I keep sync it to gore fight student council campaign needs the GOP nominee. I think presidential races are becoming a lot more like high school president races added popularity contest look at in the same way today piano like. Because whatever we seen the establishments on both sides and they socks is what most people say so all of that let's roll the dice with the guy. Yeah it's dangerous but I think a lot of people like how can be more we just went over this with the speakership we cannot stand John Boehner we gotta have something new when what do you know. You give us all and I'm tired of it. Jim yet having adjusted to talk about the Republican primary voters and again I talked with the disillusionment with that they've had their nominees. But it also would Republicans in Washington I mean in 2010 they ran saying look we're gonna repeal obamacare were gonna fix the American system. And they haven't done that mean that that the Tea Party. Office holders. If if you're a movement conservative our grassroots conservative. You feel betrayed by those books because they promised you the moon and they haven't really gotten much done and opportunities and does what they. You know that at the moment the sum total what they can brag about is not giving you hearing to Merrick Garland that's what they can say is is we stop the process of allowing President Obama. To a point. Another Supreme Court justice and now what are those folks holding a four at this point. Functionally. Those folks are holding out for Donald Trump to appoint a Supreme Court justice. And if you're mean to sort of used the GOP establishment intellectuals this morning their heads are exploding because that's that's what they've had directly. It's 857 we'll take your calls right after the break Gillis in the WRKO Boston doc how morning show. The most cruel morning drew a gruesome I don't want forty year old. Perverts and bathrooms with four year old girl who sold real solution is moves that OK okay I who was he Reagan who was yet. 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He's got a great theory that's down really irk people were let me and a sad reality dig a couple of calls here and then and didn't let Coolidge in the way and a looks good David if we could let's go to Tom in this doing Tom good morning WRKO. Good morning at worst they think a lot that's different from the conversation about people or and why they're voting for Donald Trump. People you know internalize human being accountable to show or a comedy thing a reality star. This is a multi billion era which a percentage of the ideas so minimal that to diminish him by stating that he got while it's absolutely ridiculous I think the point is. Cities not incumbent upon anybody I haven't had the interest early special addressed. It's element dictate what I have to be done I think that's the biggest thing that beat people in this country realized. Epic Beatty when you take a look at the liberal well I'm media and old are the liberals are right if you accuse me. And you ask them where the jobs coming from certain kids that are out of school they can't even find jobs split along good paying jobs. They cannot answer that question that everyone even Bernie supported Ortiz was in my own Stanley. They can never get to that question where are the jobs coming from you need some wondered on. Turn up and shake up the system and I think that's what this election well. Well I think turn up the system is certainly an. And shake up the system is what this election is all about. I know a lot of people I think have a lot of admiration for the fact that he has been so successful. And that is not enough for me because I think there's a lot of people were very successful in this country but they shouldn't necessarily be the president. You know I mean I I think you know he's a Smart guy I think he's done a great job. At what he does that. I I think I'm scared of him. You know act as it was looking in they had these exit polls and he enthusiastic. Are you happy are you satisfied are you scared. I would fully scared category when it comes to Donald Trump I'm scared of him being president. Well yeah your in your in the majority just look at some of the numbers that wrote this morning he's viewed unfavorably by 67%. Sorry about two thirds the electorate he's viewed very unfavorably. Or. More than half say they view him very favorably or scare them. Yeah which is not those are the numbers that you wanna take into a general election but the caveat to that is we have again disk out of him again and again and again in theory is this morning to present to like them. Well there's a lot of data as one of which is if this is a race about passionate supporters the passion for him as much higher I think than the passion for our people evidently. You talked about like. The Bob doles of the world on the Republican side who resist their turn and it's inevitable and we got to deal with this that she is that this time around him. Nobody can be like here's why I love her it's like now Hillary you know it's grade or whatever. He he you just heard the last caller Tom my keys revved up in his fired write about it in. Again I don't think can underestimate the question whether it last until November but. The the amount of interest people have been giving a great big double fingered Washington pencil and I'd I nightingale that's what excites me I'm sick of these guys and I've had enough of it. I'm also scared Jim because there are consequences to dance and you we don't know what they will be. I did say that I dislike him I'm just a free of him I really. And afraid of him everyone knows and does like him it seems like it's a weird number helix and more about what more to me right now but the way that lucky enough where I asked the people out of work for him a long list that I Needham and here's why most people tell you damn well where's the long list Seattle art I've argued that over and over here he is daughter talk about how. I'll he's been such a champion for women in all these women that he is to promote one of those women. I haven't seen any of those we cannot say I work for Donald Trump and heat. Is fantastic. The. You soon you will be seeing that they need to win his own daughter is one of them when his own dock when you guess they don't you think they think a strong female people in business right now I think if two people. I think of Sheryl Sandberg FaceBook and launched the I do think of a bucket truck now right now. I've that she doesn't catch your side doesn't counties are now is a generational thing and you're in love with her because it's if you have a lot of terror and obviously that. That the broadcast on live radio show that's his kid I mean that's now that now I gotta hear somebody. Who was on his payroll and took direction Carlson means nothing to you camp now she does not. What was your. Aaron Elmore ever heard a lot of among there was the one that that Playboy playmate that came up earlier in the campaign -- Thompson did on you and your I'd like to see you won your knees and she Timmons and a couple of the guys on everything from me there was the beauty queen and everyone wanted to fired it yet I misunderstood. I haven't set a single person that I have that we're pretty any credibility and I wanna hear it rebellion Palin loves them she wanted to me -- -- mean she spent an hour with them I mean you know there I wanna meet a woman. Who is an executive in here what in his one of his companies in your own bottom that's who needs to come follow it where the woman who was the executive acknowledged as the work for me anymore and she said he was tagged. SOB. There's precept and I got sent her because she was a book and he she said he was that way across. The board that doesn't Aaron did make I think everybody in SOB in the white house on top supposed. Playing nice for eight years and you know we can sit down at the table have a conversation and worked out too well I'm sick of that here's what else I want Jim O'Sullivan is packed. That of long cut in Chelsea have had to be nice guy and I want the gloves there let's get ultimate fighting with the kids can have a presidential debate of vice presidential debate and I hear his daughter candidate okay. Awesome so she got awesome chip is gut crazy. Theory about you wanna vaught got to say. It's Chelsea's getting a better and I wanna block out alive televisions and I think Webb Hubbell did off I don't beat. Best thing in his view it's not going to have now all that stuff. Not gonna happen much and militias get the web Hubbell reference the law and it's of that locker room Ronnie and as is a look at those images side by. Brought out the 85 bears a few minutes ago as a cause. But a kind of stopped there and so you've theory about vice presidential candidates and only used him. This is some off their chatter is now transferred to on site to be more careful with affection but this is the Alyssa when Iraq sources on this which is why I there was legitimate. This this is Elizabeth Warren took oath not to let it okay so. What if let's let's partially it is as a hypothetical what if Elizabeth Warren is eyeing a one term in the senate. And not running for reelection so she was elected in twelve she'd leave at the end of eighteen. And move on to a post. Senate and we'll stick with political but it post elected career where she's more effective as an advocate. Then she is as an officeholder AKA Sarah Palin. Like a Sarah Palin tipped of course to be 180 degree Amber's. I'll orient Jim dement was as well known as our own news been fairly effective at The Heritage Foundation. Elizabeth Warren. Wearied of Washington. Disenchanted with with the ways of the senate comes outside the senate and wields a megaphone that she wouldn't be able to wield as effectively in this. Which of the reasons anyway torment prisoners in them now because her tweet storm last night. Certainly positioned her as someone who can be an effective attack dog. Yes vocal attack ads against Donald Trump and he has the the progressive he would of the different artists in a way that Hillary Clinton certainly does not in a way that Bernie Sanders I mean in in some ways is her. Predecessor ideologically. But also has benefited from. The movement that Elizabeth Warren helped create and among them the anti Wall Street inside banks. You guys it's 2016. And we have not had a woman president yet. What would make you think. That this country. Would vote for two women on went through through an app again no way so he would be good countering him one along and unfortunately it doesn't mean I don't think it would be I. I don't I don't get out. There's not a way that that would ever happen. Years ago took to quote the president himself the country vote for black guy with the funny name. This year the Republican primary electorate appears poised to vote for. Reality. TV show star who has multiple bankruptcies would become the first major party nominee not to have held office forces like the guys are so what's so crazy about two. What's crazy about is these two women can I think Jerry got an allowance I don't ejected like each other. But this move is because this is not random that she sent out 67 tweets last night getting increasingly vitriolic that is not random. So what is she doing she's got to be doing something. I mean she's just maybe she's just gonna start to eat she's gonna beat them voice she's going to be but I can't see her on the ticket I distinctly. I think we got some animosity o'clock. And I understand that they're. I'm Jim O'Sullivan you're gonna run you get you get another job much rumor has it right into your other job his day job you'll come back and hope he will play thanks for your muscle that it there at the Boston Globe jolly view this Kim thinks on your Elizabeth Warren theory that your off the reservation. He once again and I impeachment. Thank you that I did I fourteen of the Bjork at Boston ma am.